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Graduation… now what?

Well, today was my last day of class for this semester. I have next week of final exams and then commencment on Saturday morning May 10th. I have been thinking about this process (it has taken me six years) of getting a graduate degree (I have earned in M.A. in Theology with a concentration in Biblical Studies).

  • I started in 2002
  • I was single when I started, now I am married and a father of a two year old son
  • We went from a two income household, to basically a one-income household (wife works p/t frm home)
  • So far to this point it has cost me $12,036.01 for this degree. This includes fees, books, tuition, etc.
  • I do not have any hard statistics on how many pages I have read, papers I have done, etc. I know that I have spent my share of time in the seminary library and I still have some time to invest there this week.

Now that I have completed this degree what is next? I am not totally certain. My plans are to continue here to finish the remaining 20 hours to obtain my MDiv (another two years). I do not know what the Lord may have in store. It would be very easy for me to ask some of the usual questions of myself or of this accomplishment, but I want to ask a different one.

Have we cheapened education in some form or fashion by making it a “requirement”?

Please do not misunderstand what I am saying. I can remember years ago that MBA’s were extremely rare and people who invested the time and effort were usually rewarded with good paying jobs, etc. Now MBA’s are a dime a dozen and the market is oversaturated with people with MBA degrees not working in their field, but taking lesser paying jobs to survive. I shift gears to the seminary side, are M.A.’s and MDiv’s the MBA’s of the theological world? I have no regrets in making this investment, but I remember back to someone telling me that having a graduate degree will open doors of opportunity that would not otherwise be open.  I know that obtaining this degree is an accomplishment, but I know that it will not change anything at my secular job, I will not be given a pay raise or afforded any additional respect.  I will remain a “cube dweller” monotonously keying contracts for 8 + hours a day.  I had always figured that an accomplishment of this sort would have meant something in the secular world, but that is why I ask my question.

Well, I am waiting to see what is on the other side of those “doors of opportunity”?

My observations about The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

My observations about The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

I have been asked to write this article to share my thoughts/observations regarding my recent visit to the campus of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. I currently attend a fundamental Baptist seminary that is much smaller compared to SBTS. My thoughts and observations are not intended in any way to impugn or malign either institution, but rather to show some of the advantages/disadvantages of both types of seminaries (large and small). I have divided my observations into categories to make it easier for the reader and for me to organize my thoughts into some logical order.

Recently from April 2-6, 2008, I had the opportunity to visit the campus of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, KY. The Lord has definitely blessed this fine institution with a wonderful array of facilities coupled with a first-rate faculty all dedicated for the purpose of training the future generations to serve Christ in multiple and varied capacities.

My visit was in conjunction with a conference held by Don Whitney and The Center for Biblical Spirituality on campus April 4-5, 2008. However, in order for me to save some money on airfare and to get a look at the campus from a prospective student perspective, I arrived on Wednesday afternoon, April 2nd.

Facilities – Southern occupies approximately 40 acres in the St. Mathews area of Louisville. Situated on Lexington Road in a nice neighborhood, this sprawling campus is a testimony of God’s providence and blessing. Facilities are an important part of any institution. They can either make or break the institution. Location is also important as well. One could have first-class facilities but are located in a declining or bad neighborhood and it will be hard to attract students.

What other seminaries have a health-club complete with a gymnasium, swimming pool, indoor walking track, and workout facilities? This shows a commitment on the part of the seminary not to just “feed the mind” but rather also to provide a balance where students can keep their physical bodies in shape to have the ability to serve the Lord. The health-club is a great asset.

The seminary also enjoys two dining facilities, a cafeteria and the Founders Café. The cafeteria is rather small for the size of the institution, but adequately meets the needs of the seminary community. The prices are reasonable and the food is excellent for institutional food. The Founders Café is an informal setting with overflow seating found directly across the hall. The menu consists of sandwiches, wraps, burgers, desserts and beverages. Cost is reasonable and the hours of the café are longer than those of the cafeteria. Students have a choice of where they wish to eat instead of being confined to one location within a certain time frame.

The Legacy Center is a unique facility. It is a conference center and a hotel-type facility on campus located across from the Honeycutt Center and adjacent to the Alumni Chapel. The rooms are spacious and very well-maintained. The front desk is staffed 24 hours a day. The staff at the Legacy Center is there to meet your needs and they are first rate. The cost for lodging here is very affordable and reasonable. It is great to be able to stay right on campus in a safe environment and being able to be involved with the goings on within a seminary community during my stay. Staying at an off-campus facility would have been detrimental as well as inconvenient. Having the experience of being a frequent traveler in the past, the Legacy Center was nicer than most of the hotels and motels that I have stayed in.

The Alumni Chapel building sits adjacent to the Legacy Center and can be seen from Lexington Road. This facility was built in the 1950’s and was patterned after the First Baptist Church in Atlanta. The seminary community meets here twice a week for chapel services.

The James P Boyce Centennial Library sits directly across the lawn from the Honeycutt Student Center. A daunting structure in its own right, it houses close to one million volumes and is one of the noted theological libraries in the world. I had the opportunity to use these facilities while on campus. I have never been in a seminary library that was this large and occupied many floors. I also enjoyed the use of the wireless network while in the library since I had to complete a couple of assignments while on campus. I had the pleasure of meeting Paul Roberts who is the Patron Librarian and I appreciated his hospitality towards me as well as his assistance in making sure I was able to complete and email my assignments while on campus. Any researcher should have the ability to make full use of this library and appreciate the value that a library provides to a seminary.

Norton Hall is where the classrooms, faculty office and administrative offices are located. It is located a short distance from the Alumni chapel and also houses the Broadus chapel, which is a smaller chapel used for more intimate settings. Norton Hall is found on many of the seminary publications and is a well recognized building as it faces Lexington Road. Currently the seminary is undergoing a facelift in preparation for the 2009 SBC Annual Meeting to be held in Louisville and the seminary’s 150th anniversary. Norton Hall is undergoing some substantial renovation right now, but was still accessible. While on the official seminary tour on Friday, I was able to see where Dr. Mohler does his radio show. This was of special interest to me because I have an interest in radio!

Faculty – When considering an institution, facilities are important, but the faculty is also just as important. Southern Seminary is no exception. Under the leadership of Dr. Mohler, men like Don Whitney, Thomas Schreiner, Bruce Ware and others have joined the faculty of Southern Seminary. The faculty is world-class and the recognized leaders in their respective areas and disciplines. I think that the page in the prospective student workbook summarizes the faculty by stating the following on page 9, “Most seminaries will have you read important books. At Southern Seminary, you will sit in classes taught by the authors.” This is it! How many times have we read a book and said, Boy I wish I could understand what they meant by that statement or what their motivation was to write this book, or how do you find the time to write a book and get it published. At Southern, you can ask those questions and get answers! Having a top-notch faculty is especially important when dealing with post-graduate issues, you want to be able to study with the best possible faculty in your area of interest and the opportunity is there at Southern.

Leadership - Someone once said, “Everything rises and falls on Leadership.” That is a true statement! Dr. Mohler has surrounded himself with some of the most gifted men who are there to help him carry the load with regard to the administration of the seminary. While on the unofficial student tour with Terry Delaney, I had the opportunity to meet Dr. Mohler while we were walking through Norton Hall. This was a goal of mine while I was in town, was to be able to meet Dr Mohler and the Lord answered my prayer! He is a kind and gracious gentlemen and has a real servant’s heart for the seminary community. Men like Dr. Russell Moore and Dr. Don Whitney along with others who serve an administrative capacity go a long way in making Southern Seminary what it is today. I am not a Southern Baptist, but I recognize that it is by the leadership of Dr. Mohler that Southern Seminary is enjoying a “resurgence of conservatism” and it shows in the dramatic increase in the student body since he arrived in 1993 to assume the presidency.

Ministry Opportunities – One of the things that struck me was that Southern Seminary has an office to help students with potential ministry opportunities that exist within the greater Louisville area. This is an unbelievable resource where a student can submit his resume and complete a form which provides more detailed information regarding his particular interest in ministry as well as other pertinent information that will allow the Ministry Referral Office help get the searching student and the prospective ministry in contact with each other. The Ministry Referral office does not promise any opportunities or give any guarantees, but they are there to assist the student and alumni with ministry placement opportunities. It is great to see something like this when other institutions have either minimal or nothing in this areas to assist students and alumni. Local church involvement is crucial to have a balanced seminary experience and the Ministry Referral Office seeks to make that happen.

Bureaucracy – Every institution has a degree of this, it is natural and normal. How this is dealt with is another matter. I did not experience very much of this while on campus and for a large institution this is a positive factor.

Communication – This is extremely important. How does the seminary communicate within the seminary community? How do they communicate with prospective students? How do they communicate with the public? How do they communicate with potential donors? I found that the communication that I was a part of was clear and concise and professional in nature. In addition, the seminary utilizes closed-circuit television monitors in strategic areas within the building to communicate important announcements and events within the seminary community.

Chapel – Chapel meets Tuesdays and Thursdays at 10:00 am. Chapel is taken very seriously around here, so much so, that everything is closed during the chapel hour to allow everyone to attend. I found this to be a great policy and one that other seminaries could emulate. The chapel service is similar to a worship service in a Baptist church minus the offering time. Preaching from some of the best preachers in America along with appropriate special music complement the chapel hour. The chapel services are also broadcast on a local cable channel in the Louisville area to allow others within the local community to enjoy the chapel services even if they are unable to attend in person.

Shepherding Groups These are informal groups of approximately 5 students that meet periodically with a professor in a smaller more intimate setting that provide accountability and fellowship for the students and professors. These groups are purely voluntary. I am currently involved in what is called a Small-Group Fellowship at my current seminary and I feel that our group is a great success because our faculty leader is an SBTS alumnus and has probably drawn on his experiences from his days at SBTS.

Garrett Fellows – these are PhD students who assist a particular professor with administrative issues as well as grading. We would commonly know them as graduate assistants. This is a great opportunity for those individuals who serve as Garrett Fellows to gain meaningful experience as well as a great mentoring and learning opportunity for both parties. I am not sure about all of the particulars about being a Garrett Fellow, but I do see this as a great asset/opportunity since I am from a seminary that is much smaller and has nothing in this regard.

Biblical Spirituality and Personal Spiritual Disciplines/Spiritual Formation – The recent additions of Dr. Don Whitney and Dr. Michael Haykin to the faculty only bring greater opportunities in these areas. SBTS has a DMin. Degree available in the area of Biblical Spirituality. Personal Spiritual Disciplines is a course taught by Dr. Don Whitney and other faculty members. I had the opportunity to sit in on a class session on Thursday afternoon, April 3, 2008. This is a required class and one that is definitely needed within a seminary context, where it can be very easy to get caught up with the academic aspects and neglecting one’s spiritual walk with God. I think that this course needs to be offered at every seminary and it needs to be a required first year class on the graduate and post-graduate levels.

Overall, I find that Southern Seminary is a great seminary and it has a lot to offer the prospective student in both the graduate and post-graduate areas. I am not implying that everything is perfect and that the institution is not without faults, but I find that an institution of this size and caliber coupled with its rich history provides a great deal of unparalleled opportunities for training, ministry and service in the Lord’s work.

Louisville and Southern Seminary – Day 2

It is hard to sleep in an unfamiliar place.  I have a nice room here at the Legacy Center, but it is either too hot or too cold and I have to adjust the thermostat accordingly to get the temperature regulated.  I had a hard time sleeping because of new noises or lack of noise (we live near a busy highway in MN) I wanted to get up early and use the health club facilities but I was just too tired.  I was able to enjoy a nice quiet breakfast in the cafeteria.  I enjoyed a nice western omelet, without the tomatoes and mushrooms.

After breakfast, I came back to the room to take care of some seminary coursework that I still have to complete while I am away.  Terry Delaney came by and then it was off to chapel.  Alumni chapel is a very ornate, beautiful building. It seats around 1200 and was pretty full this morning for chapel.  Dr. James Merritt preached a great message from II Timothy, you can read more about it in detail here.

After chapel, I was able to meet and speak with Dr. Tom Nettles.  I have heard a lot about Dr. Nettles from Dr. Jeff Straub (who studied under Dr. Nettles here at SBTS) and I was very glad to be able to speak with him.  In a sense Dr. Nettles has a part in my education indirectly through Dr. Straub.

Once chapel was over, I headed over to the Admissions Office where I had lunch with one of their Admissions Counselors, Toby Jennings.  We had a nice lunch and a good time of conversation/fellowship.  After lunch, I met Terry Delaney again and we went to Dr. Whitney’s Personal Spiritual Disciplines class.  Today they were talking about the various views on the Lord’s Day.  What a stimulating, thought provoking discussion.  I will say more about this later because what was discussed has given me an idea either for a paper or a blog post.  I slipped out of class a few minutes early in order to keep an appointment with Dr. William Cook (NT Professor).  I enjoyed meeting with Dr. Cook and asking questions regarding the PhD program here at Southern.  We spent about 20 mins together and then I went back to meet Terry before the next class.

We went to the Founders Cafe and grabbed a quick snack before the next class.  It was nice to be able to talk about many different things with Terry Delaney.  Just before 4 pm, we headed back to Norton Hall for Church History class with Dr. Kevin Smith.  I must confess, at 4 pm, I was struggling to stay awake, but I survived.  I enjoyed the Church History class with Dr. Smith and it brought back memories of my time in church history as well.

After class, we came back to the room so I could quickly catch up on some emails and return a phone call.  Then it was off to Terry Delaney’s again for dinner.  We were supposed to have chicken pot-pie tonight but instead we had Pizza Hut and it was good pizza.  It has been a while since I had Pizza Hut and it was good.  Since it was Terry’s birthday today, his wife Krista made him a gooey butter cake.  This is a St. Louis thing.  I enjoyed it very much and told my wife and mother in law about it and they said that it would be neat to try some time.

I am finishing up this post and getting back to my seminary work.  Tomorrow I will be getting together with Dr. and Mrs Hauser who recently retired from Central Seminary and are living in the Louisville area.   I have a campus tour scheduled for tomorrow afternoon and then I will be spending the afternoon working on more seminary classwork and taking an exam if my professor remembers to email it to me.

The Spiritual Disciplines Conference starts tomorrow evening at 7:00 pm and I am looking forward to it.  Before I know it, it will be time to return home to MN.  Hopefully the weather will have improved when I get back.  It sounds like the rain is picking up with intensity outside!

Louisville and Southern Seminary – Day 1

Today got off to an early start.  The alarm went off at 5:00 am and I got moving.  I had to catch a 7:00 am plane to Chicago and connect on to Louisville.  Got to the airport a little after 6:00 and then I saw the line — and it was long….  I got in line and was wondering if I was going to make my flight.  I got through security and walked briskly to the gate and boarded the plane and looked at my watch and it was 6:45 am — I made it with 15 mins to spare.

The flight to Chicago was a short one.  It reminded of me the flight from Jacksonville to Atlanta, you are up and then you land, a quick flight.  I had not been to O’Hare in quite some time and it has not changed much.  Took my time walking to the connecting gate because I had a 2 1/2 hour layover.  I was able to use the time wisely by finishing some reading that I needed to complete for one of my seminary classes.

The flight to Louisville was another short one on a CRJ-200 regional jet.  This particular aircraft seats about 50 people and it was packed.  We departed a little late but arrived 15 mins later than scheduled.  This is the first flight where I did not check any luggage and this is the way to go, what a time savings.  I realize that carry-on is not always possible, but for a short trip like this it is good.  Only drawback, I do not have any additional room to bring home any books or souvenirs.

When I arrived in Louisville, Terry Delaney (from the Diary of a Seminary Student blog) met me and we came to the campus of Southern by way of a detour.  He drove a little bit out of the way so I could see the bat at the Louisville slugger museum in downtown Louisville.  I enjoyed the extra time we had in the car to talk and fellowship.

Once we arrived on campus, we went to the Founder’s cafe to eat lunch, I was hungry and the food was good.  After lunch I asked Terry to give me a tour of the campus from a student’s perspective.  While on that tour, we saw Dr. Mohler in Norton Hall and we were able to stop and exchange greetings.  Not bad for the first day on campus, I get to meet the President!   I was hoping to meet him while I was here and God allowed it to happen.  Even though we stopped for less than 5 mins, Dr. Mohler was very kind and gracious to us and made me feel very welcome here at Southern Seminary.       We went on a tour of various buildings and I was trying to take it all in.  This is a huge campus with a lot of activity.  I am pretty good with directions, but in some of the buildings, everything looks the same!  We were going down another hallway and I spotted Dr. Whitney in one of the offices.  I told Terry that I saw him and we stopped and I was able to meet him as well.  I feel like I already know him because I have read almost everything he has written and I have listened to several of his sermons online.  He was on a break and had to get back to what he was doing, so we continued on our tour.  While walking across campus, I also was able to meet Hank Balch from the Lawn Gospel blog also.

After we left Hank, we went over the the Boice Library.  What an unbelievable facility!  I was able to meet Paul Roberts, who is the Patron Librarian and he was very kind in extending hospitality and allowing me to use their library while I am on campus to complete an assignment while I am here.

We made our way around campus and then over to the Legacy Center, where I am staying while I am here.  Again, very gracious people here when I checked in.  The room I am staying in is nice, but I am having trouble getting adjusted to the 50 degree temperatures outside.  50 here is like 70 to me because it has been so cold for so long back in MN!  Terry and I talked for a while and then we headed to his apartment to have dinner with his family.  We had shepherds pie for dinner and the food was great!  I also enjoyed meeting Terry’s wife Krista, and their three boys, Austin, Isaac, and Nathaniel.  Isaac reminded me a lot of my son Joseph (they are about two months apart in age).  Nathaniel slept the whole time I was there, but he looked very cute and peaceful while sleeping.

After Terry dropped me off, I took a walk around campus to familiarize myself with my surroundings.  I went to see what the mealtimes are at the cafeteria and walked around in the Honeycutt center.  There is a lot of activity on the campus.  I was able to call Heidi and Joseph and talk with them for a while.  I am looking forward to chapel tomorrow and I will sit in on a few classes.  I am also hoping I can meet Tom Nettles while I am here.

Right now I am getting used to being back in the Eastern Time Zone.  I have an assignment that I need to complete tonight before bed.

Tomorrow – Day 2 – and hopefully it will not rain!

It’s Here

It is like Christmas in February! After many years of patiently waiting for the right opportunity, I have been able to purchase the Logos Bible Software Scholar’s Library Silver Edition

This is an unbelievable tool that hopefully will save me a lot of time in lesson and sermon preparation.  I have to learn how to use this powerful tool first.

I will post on it later because I am getting ready to leave for the evening.

What next?

I am scheduled to graduate from Central Baptist Theological Seminary in May with a Master of Arts in Theology Degree with an emphasis in Biblical Studies.  The question that I am asked quite often is “What are your future plans?”  I remember being asked this question back in 1992 when I was on the threshold of graduating from college.  Unfortunately, the answer that I gave back in 1992 is still the same in 2008:  I do not know.  Back in 1992, I was quite resentful in having to answer that way while watching my friends get interviews and go off to ministry positions while I remained in Jacksonville and worked my secular job.  Now I think I have matured a bit since then and I am not as anxious about things.  I have a wonderful wife and a wonderful son.  We have a nice place to live (lease is up in the fall?) I have a decent job (not the greatest, but it pays the bills).

I have been pondering the possibility of returning to seminary here in the fall to finish my MDiv.  At best, I would have two years left (mainly two years of Hebrew and some electives, core classes and Greek are complete).  I would really like to have the best of both worlds by finishing the MDiv and being able to serve full-time on a church staff somewhere in the Twin Cities.  Not sure if that will come to pass, but there is nothing wrong with dreaming and praying to that end!

I have told most people that right now if someone were to offer me a ministry position, I would definitely listen to them and would not discount the opportunity.  Who knows what will happen – only the Lord does.

It is good to be done

It is a relief to be done with seminary for this semester.  I feel that this semester was a bit more difficult because of the workload.  The workload is always a test of one’s priorities and time management skills.  Today, we went and did some Christmas shopping.  It was very hard not to be covetous as we were looking around in the Apple store, it was packed out!  People everywhere.

I am looking forward to working 1/2 days on Fridays until seminary resumes in January.  Technically, I am academically finished with my degree, but I am going to take two classes next semester.

I really need to sit down and clean up the mess that has accumulated on my desk.  I do not like clutter, but it seems like it always accumulates on my desk until I can find time to take care of it.

Have a good weekend.  I am staying inside because it is cold here!

Exams are this week

Well, I am back to working hard again after a brief break.  I have one exam on Wednesday and a paper presentation on Thursday and then the semester is over.

Like I said, after 12/14, I will be able to post more frequently.  Until then, pray that I can make through this last week.  It has been a long and profitable semester, but it does take its toll on me and especially my family!

Want a good read and a blessing

I normally do not have time to read a lot of blogs, but I found one that really ministered to me this evening. Yes, the semester is almost over and I actually did almost nothing today and enjoyed it!

You can read about someone else’s seminary experience (besides mine) and this one is much more interesting

Diary of a Seminary Student

Hopefully you will get a blessing as I did and be an encouragement to this brother!

Busy until 12/14

I am swamped at the moment with seminary end of semester assignments. I have nine items to complete by December 13th and then I will be academically finished with my Master of Arts in Theology Degree.  When the dust settles after 12/14, I plan on writing two book reviews, one on a biography of Benjamin Franklin and one on the Reagan Diaries.  I managed to read these items earlier in the year and thought they would be interesting reviews.

Until then, please pray that the Lord will give me the strength to get all of these items completed timely!